Given Open Source Free software and that our goal is to spread ideas as much as possible, why is this book a prohibitive 167$ on amazon? Is there a PDF version free?

Deck3100 wrote:
Given Open Source Free software and that our goal is to spread ideas as much as possible, why is this book a prohibitive 167$ on amazon? Is there a PDF version free?

I have the same problem with Fresco.

It's $24.95 at thevenusproject.com/store . Blame Amazon, not Fresco.

The cost for a 2 hour lecture of fresco is 6,000 dollars.
So...you can blame Fresco for that one.
I understand him being old needs us to cover the travel and the hotel. But 6,000?
I don't think he should profit from his lectures. I know Peter dosen't.
But many people here is dissapointed with Fresco because there is no way we can collect that kind of money to bring him.

I don't think he makes any profit this way, because it probably just covers the travel expenses and housing, during such visits.

About the price estimation - that would make 3$ per person, if there were 2000 in the audience. It's hard to travel around the world for just a small group of people, so it should be encouraged that more attendants are gathered for a lecture.

katastron wrote:
the travel expenses and housing*for Jacque and Roxanne.

"The Best That Money Can't Buy" is a great quality book, and 25$ is a symbolic price for it, that probably hardly covers the expensive printing. Notice the huge difference - Jacque gives it for about 7 times less money than Amazon sells it. And Amazon are the Big Guys here, they have all the tools to reduce prices by buying large quantities.

I think it's worth having this book in print; an electronic version could not provide the full quality of it.

> I don't think he should profit from his lectures. I know Peter dosen't.

Actually, we seem to know more about Fresco finances than Peters...

I don't mind him making a profit myself, though if we really wanted to help him, we'd give him the money directly than spending it going to see him!

I agree Nanos. I have no problem with Fresco wanting to profit, the problem is that you just can't do that because you give the opportunity to the naysayers to be all over you.
Right now we don't need profit lectures or anything like that, I agree with Peter on that.

But I can see both sides of this. If you talk about against money, why charge a fee? I can't be so blind to deny this point.
I don't care about the morals of this, but many people do and you have to recognize it.

yeh, making profits off of lectures will put a bad taste in people's mouths who are listening to the same person advocate a RBE and the need to move away from money. But this is the paradox of today's monetary system(we still got to pay our bills and other expenses). However, we can still utilize freer and open alternatives like time dollars, reputation points, and mutual credit systems to help do things together without the need of making profits.

this has been discussed many times before, but i guess these topics will keep coming up with people thinking it should all be free..

but the one thing you MUST remember is that they ARENT making a "PROFIT" out of all this, seriously guys, you think youre gonna make them rich with 25 for a book, or the visit which costs around 200$ i think, though im not sure, during which u get lots of material

and another thing, where the hell do you think that money is going to, do you really believe that they spend that money on LUXURY???
they go on long holidays in distant countries??
they drive around in a limo, have a personal driver, a personal assistant, a butler and what not ???

i mean WTF, all the money they receive is going STRAIGHT into creating solutions for problems through different projects, The Venus Project in general, making films, making more material, and ofcourse to feed themselves and pay their bills..
the reason they are selling the research center on florida is because THEY CANT AFFORD it, so how in the world do you think youre making them rich?

and if you have a problem funding these two people who live a humble lifestyle and have many great ideas and solutions to todays problems which do require financial support, well then i dont know what else to say except..

just please stop with this BS nonsense about Jacque and Roxanne making profit like theyre living a luxury style life..